Crowded, high stakes
- AI sales outreach and cold calling (consent rules apply)
- Avatar videos making listing claims
What your friend most likely heard in Miami, what his AI video business looks like from the outside, and fourteen sealed predictions to check against what he actually says.
A · Bottom line
The best-fitting event is The Real Deal Miami Real Estate Forum, Nov 4–5 at Mana Wynwood. It drew about 6,000 people and ran more than three dozen panels. Only two were about AI, and neither touched AI video for agents. A man selling AI avatar video to agents had a room full of top agents to pitch, which is a better reason to go than the agenda.
B · Sealed predictions
These were written before your partner talks to him. Each has a confidence level. After the conversation, mark each one Hit, Partial or Miss. If the confidence levels are honest, the number of hits should land near the expected figure. Your marks are saved in this browser only.
Expected hits if calibrated: –
Score counts a Partial as half a hit. The gold tick on the bar marks the expected hit rate. When you're done, press Copy results and send them to Leonard.
C · Which event
The dedicated Miami AI Summit ran on Oct 23. The next AI-heavy wave, including the TBM Conference and Adobe MAX, starts Nov 9–10. Business events in between ran AI as a side topic. Once we learned his clients are real estate agents, one candidate pulled clearly ahead.
| Event | When and where | AI content | Fit |
|---|---|---|---|
| The Real Deal Miami Real Estate Forum | Nov 4–5, Mana Wynwood | Two sponsor sessions; a walking robot "meant to replace real estate agents" on the expo floor | Strongest |
| The Hospitality Show | Nov 2–4, Miami Beach Convention Center | AI in hotel pricing, staffing and guest service | Wrong industry |
| WIRED World Fair | Nov 4, Wynwood | Most AI content, framed around culture and policy | Possible side trip |
| A private seminar or mastermind | Unknown | No public agenda to check | Can't rule out |
D · What the forum covered
The main stage covered private equity, the Miami market reset, global buyers, aging condos, Miami Worldcenter, and Ken Griffin's $1.1 billion purchase of the Mana Wynwood site. Mayor Daniella Levine Cava spoke, and Rick Ross made an appearance about his Miami Gardens project. The press release announcing the forum never mentioned AI.
Both AI sessions ran on Day 1 on the secondary Innovation Stage, where every slot was sponsor-presented:
AI has also been moving down the bill each year:
No outside press, Reddit threads, LinkedIn posts or recordings of the 2026 edition turned up. The forum ended only two to three days before this research, so posts may still appear. The closest thing to an inside account of a recent edition is a 2025 sponsor blog, which said agents were moving toward "automation… and AI tools that allow them to scale without burning out," and that authentic video was winning trust.
E · His business
Soare Productions' public sites describe a traditional real estate media and social-media company: photography, cinematic 4K and drone video, Matterport tours, virtual staging, agent intro videos, reels and social-media management. Its packages are called Foundation, Momentum and Ascend, with no published prices. A second search on Nov 7 covered every site the company links to: the main site, its Hawaii and Los Angeles pages, soareintl.com, soarebc.com and soarealberta.com. It also searched the founder's name and the brand for any separate AI business. None of it mentions AI avatars, digital twins, AI implementation, training or retainers, and no separate AI brand turned up. That fits what he has shared privately as a long-time client: the AI side is sold through direct relationships and conversations rather than advertised online. His company Instagram (@soareproductions, about 11,300 followers) is the one public place the shift shows. Its bio now reads "We Help Realtors Grow Through AI and Social Media," claims work with over 1,500 agents, and links to a booking page for a free intro call. Instagram shows little else without signing in, so the details of the AI offer still come from what he has told your partner. His websites undersell what he now does.
His personal Instagram (@cipyy, about 8,600 followers) shows where he is taking the business. The bio now reads "Real Estate Personal Brand Architect," helping agents "attract sellers through content, story & IG systems." His pinned posts from late 2025 describe the pivot in his own words: "Before I ever coached an agent, I spent 10+ years behind the camera building the brands of over 1,000 realtors… Now I teach those systems." The pitch is about positioning, not volume: "no dancing, no posting 3× a day, no 'gaming the algorithm,'" and "It's never about the volume. It's always about the positioning." His way in is a free Instagram audit for any agent who messages him "AUDIT." His biggest recent posts aren't sales posts at all. A June reel asking people to tag local Hawaii businesses drew about 6,200 likes and 600 comments. None of the captions checked mention AI by name.
Read together, the two accounts suggest the AI work is the production engine behind a coaching business. The clone and the workflows let an agent stay visible without filming constantly, and the brand strategy is what he sells. That is a more defensible position than reselling avatar tools, and it is closer to the "outcome plus insurance" offer described later in this report than his websites suggest.
The existing business gives him real advantages for the new one. He already has agent clients, already films the footage avatar training needs, and already runs social-media management, which is a retainer by another name.
The competition is closing in from two directions. In August, HeyGen launched its own real estate product: record once, then generate market updates and listing spotlights. Keller Williams added Rejig.AI, which makes agent-branded posts and videos automatically when a listing goes live, and eXp is expanding its own AI platform. On Oct 13, SERHANT. started a daily avatar channel with HeyGen, with no results yet. Evidence that avatar video wins agents business is still thin. The best success story found is one agent who closed two deals over five months, and he sells a cloning tool.
Verdict: teaching agents to clone themselves is the weakest part of the offer, because HeyGen gives away the playbook. Done-for-you production with distribution and compliance holds up better, at squeezed prices. AI implementation for general businesses is a bigger market with better margins.
F · His numbers
Soare is private and publishes no prices, so this is built from his own public claims and typical market rates. About $0.5 million is a realistic floor, and $3 million would need every service line near its high end at once. Treat it as a guess, not something to repeat to him or others as fact.
| Service line | Assumption | Per year |
|---|---|---|
| Listing media | 600–1,200 shoots a year at $400–$900 | $250K–$1M |
| Luxury listings | A handful a year at $5K–$25K | $25K–$150K |
| Social media retainers | 10–30 agents at $1,000–$3,000 a month | $120K–$1M |
| Coaching, brand strategy and AI | 5–30 clients at $500–$2,500 a month | $30K–$600K |
| Total | Every line can't sit at its high end at once | $425K–$2.75M |
The payroll gap is the telling detail: "lots of employees" and 6–10 on payroll can both be true if most of the team are contractors paid per job. No public source gives a filed revenue figure. Dun & Bradstreet, Crunchbase and PPP loan records turned up nothing.
G · Does it all break?
Leonard's concern isn't that things break without warning. It's dependency: a business built on a few AI vendors inherits their change schedule, and a published schedule doesn't make the rebuild work go away. The 2026 record bears that out, with seven changes in seven months that forced someone to migrate, re-test or rebuild:
Newer agent tools change the kind of upkeep more than the amount. Grok Bot is a real xAI product, in beta since Aug 11: agents that run on their own cloud computers and operate tools like a person. Claude Managed Agents and AWS's agent service do similar work, and shared standards like MCP and Agent Skills make tool connections portable across models. A goal-driven agent recovers from a renamed field far better than a rigid chain of steps. In exchange you get beta products that change, costs that spike when an agent loops, and new security holes. The open-source OpenClaw had remote-code and prompt-injection flaws, and Cisco found a third-party skill sending data out.
The work has shifted from fixing broken steps to watching, securing and tuning a semi-autonomous system. It breaks less, but it still needs an owner.
Leonard's objection to the common pitch holds: a $5,000 setup plus $1,000 a month, followed by surprise "quarterly upgrades," feels manufactured, because the client couldn't see the extra work coming. The honest version puts the dependency in the contract instead of hiding it in a flat fee:
The difference from a manufactured upsell is disclosure. Extra work the client was told about on day one, caused by a vendor they can see, is a known cost of the tool. Extra work that appears as a surprise is the pattern Leonard is right to avoid.
H · Who pays, and why
Look from the customer's side and the work changes shape. An owner who can't build the workflow also can't spot a silent quality drop, migrate before Nov 30, or close a security hole. That work is real, so it can be billed honestly, as long as it's priced openly rather than buried in a flat fee.
Goldman Sachs small-business survey, March 2026, except where noted. The gap between the top bars and the bottom two is the done-for-you market.
Leonard is right that the seller side is packed. Agencies, course graduates and teenagers all sell the same AI setups and agent systems. The research found the same thing: the low end is full of generic chatbots and copy-paste automations, and the marketing is "extremely noisy with people selling the dream." Most people who start never reach meaningful revenue. Bigger players are moving in too. HeyGen and brokerages like Keller Williams and eXp now bundle the tools themselves, and IT service firms, a market of about $650 billion, are adding AI services. That crowding is why agent video retainers have sunk to $199–$499 a month.
The buyer side looks different. Only 14% of small businesses have fully built AI into their operations, and fewer than one in five had paid for an AI tool at all. The market isn't full. The pitch is. When every owner gets the same cold offer, they stop trusting the offer, and the scarce thing becomes trust: an existing relationship, a track record in one niche, and proof from a client they know.
That's why your friend is better placed than the crowd. He didn't start by selling AI. He spent a decade earning the trust of 1,000+ agents with video work, and now offers AI to people who already know him. For anyone without that list, the way through is the same on a smaller scale: one niche, a few clients who already trust the builder, and published results, instead of another cold pitch into the noise.
The market has priced this in. Small-business AI work typically sells as a $2,000–$15,000 build fee plus a $500–$3,500 monthly retainer. These are agency rate cards, not audited figures. Agent video retainers at $199–$499 sit at the bottom of that range, which shows how commoditized that one deliverable has become.
His skepticism still has grounds. Operators report clients leaving once the novelty fades, and clients asking why they pay to maintain a tool they can see running on its own. Gartner expects more than 40% of agent projects to be cancelled by the end of 2027.
Has it cost Leonard? Yes, at the margin. Someone who started reselling avatar setups or chatbots in 2024 has probably earned money Leonard didn't, but in the segment now being squeezed. The bigger cost is time in the market: the client list, case studies and referrals your friend is building now.
Four views of the same market, to show where Leonard's standards are an advantage and where the crowd has already set the price.
Share of firms using AI, Census Bureau survey, wave ending May 3, 2026.
Construction and food service rank below retail in Ramp's spending data (Sept 2026), but no Census figure is published for them. By size, 37% of firms with 250+ employees use AI, against under 20% of firms with four or fewer. The gap sits in small, hands-on businesses, which is where a careful builder has the least competition from in-house teams.
Share of small-business owners, from three separate 2026 surveys. Bars from different surveys aren't directly comparable.
Teal bars are barriers; gold bars measure trust. Owners don't mainly lack tools. They lack someone they trust to choose, set up and check them. Accuracy and brand voice are exactly where careless work shows, and where his attention to detail is the product.
Typical monthly prices from the research. Gold bars are self-serve tools; teal bars are done-for-you services.
Where a self-serve tool does the job, a service gets priced against the tool, which is what squeezed agent video retainers to $199–$499. The wide teal bar at the bottom is custom work that no subscription replaces. That's the band where quality can set the price.
Positions are judgment calls drawn from the research, not measured data.
The sweet spot is where errors cost the client real money or legal trouble, buyers can tell good work from bad, and the crowd's copy-paste approach fails.
| Trait | Where it pays | Where it costs |
|---|---|---|
| Accuracy | Money and compliance workflows, where one wrong number or claim is expensive | Low-stakes work, where clients won't pay for precision they can't see |
| Detail | Systems that must survive vendor changes: monitoring, tests, migration calendars | Time to launch, if version one waits until it's perfect |
| Taste | Anything client-facing: brand voice, design, communication, where 94% of owners don't trust AI alone | Commodity content, priced against $29 tools |
| Intensity and a high bar | A small number of high-value clients who notice the difference | Volume offers, where many small clients each expect support |
Leonard already builds estimating, invoicing and client-communication systems for his own contracting business. That's the open, high-stakes corner of the chart, in a sector that ranks near the bottom for AI adoption. The gaps to close are the ones the crowd is good at: shipping a first version before it's perfect, showing the work publicly, and collecting proof from a few clients. Those are where the crowd wins today, not on skill.
I · A better offer
The high-quality version is mostly engineering discipline that resellers skip, which is where Leonard's high standards become an asset.
The best clients already have a working sales process for the system to plug into. Even Alex Hormozi warns that an AI sales agent dropped into a business without one performs badly.
If Leonard tests this, the advice is to skip avatar training. Pick one niche, sell build-plus-retainer at the agency price levels, and design for replaceability from day one. Your friend is a natural first conversation: he has agent relationships and footage, and Leonard has the engineering his offer lacks. Run one client for 90 days with a lead or hours-saved number agreed up front. That result would show whether Leonard's skepticism has been protecting him or holding him back.
J · Questions to ask
| Ask him | Substance sounds like | A warning sign sounds like |
|---|---|---|
| What was the best part of the conference? | Specific people met, deals started | Vague talk of a "summit" with no agenda |
| Which tools are you building on? | Names them and says why | "My proprietary AI system" |
| What do clients pay, and how many have stayed past six months? | A monthly figure and a retention number | Only signups, never retention |
| What happens when a model retires or a tool changes? | A plan: monitoring, testing, a migration routine | "It just runs" |
| Who owns an agent's avatar and voice if they leave? | A written agreement | Hasn't thought about it |
| How do you handle AI labels and fair-housing rules? | A review step before anything posts | "Nobody can tell it's AI" |
| What results can you show from a client? | Leads or hours saved, before and after | View counts only, or "people are making $10K a month" |
K · Sources and limits
Two rounds of web research on Nov 7, 2026. Limits: no recordings or write-ups of the two AI sessions exist, so what was said in them is unknown. Social posts about the forum were not yet indexed. His social media and direct sales materials were not reviewed. Some figures (Gartner, agency rate cards, tool prices) come from secondary or vendor sources.
Estimate · 7 Nov 2026Not for sharing as fact
A · The estimate
That range comes from adding up each service line at typical market prices, using his own public claims for volume. About $0.5 million is a realistic floor, and $3 million is a stretch that would need every line running near its high end at once.
B · Public records
Private companies in Canada and the US don't publish financials. Business databases like Dun & Bradstreet, ZoomInfo and RocketReach show modeled guesses, not filed numbers, and all three blocked automated access behind bot checks, which I didn't try to get around. What the searchable records show:
| Source | What it shows | What it tells us |
|---|---|---|
| Hawaii business registry | SOARE INTERNATIONAL, LLC, active, registered Dec 16, 2020, for real estate media production | A real Hawaii company, set up just before the 2021 Hawaii launch. The registry doesn't record revenue. |
| ZoomInfo | 1–10 employees, listed in Newmarket, Ontario | A small payroll. Most of the team is likely contractors. |
| RocketReach | 6 employees | Matches ZoomInfo's small headcount. |
| Dun & Bradstreet, Crunchbase, Apollo | No profile found | No outside funding, and no modeled revenue to check. |
| PPP loan records | No match found | PPP loans would have shown a 2020–21 payroll figure. None turned up. |
Database figures come from search result summaries, not the full profiles. If you or your partner have a ZoomInfo, Apollo or D&B login, their modeled revenue figure would be a useful second opinion, though those models are often wrong for small firms.
C · How it adds up
| Service line | What we know | Assumption | Per year |
|---|---|---|---|
| Listing media | Claims 7,000+ projects over about 12 years, across Toronto, Hawaii, LA, BC and Alberta | 600–1,200 shoots a year at $400–$900 average | $250K–$1M |
| Luxury listings | Has shot $25M–$50M homes | A handful a year at $5K–$25K | $25K–$150K |
| Social media retainers | Content strategy, community and lead management on every site | 10–30 agents at $1,000–$3,000 a month | $120K–$1M |
| Coaching, brand strategy and AI | Newest line; free "AUDIT" offer brings clients in | 5–30 clients at $500–$2,500 a month, or one-off programs | $30K–$600K |
| Total | Every line can't sit at its high end at once | $425K–$2.75M |
D · Signals
The headcount gap is the most telling detail. "Lots of employees" and a payroll of 6–10 can both be true if most of the team are contractors paid per job, mainly offshore editors. That model is efficient, but it's smaller than it sounds from the outside.
E · Revenue vs profit
Editors, shooters, travel, software and AI tools could take 40–60% of revenue in a business like this. Using the middle of the range as an example:
That would be a very good business for one founder. It's probably smaller than "operating at a high level" suggests, and clearly bigger than a solo videographer.
F · What to listen for
If any of these come up in conversation, they'd narrow the range more than any database could.
| If he mentions | Pushes toward the high end | Pushes toward the low end |
|---|---|---|
| Active monthly clients | 30+ agents on retainers or coaching | A handful, or mostly one-off projects |
| Coaching or AI prices | $2,000+ a month, or $5K+ programs | Under $500 a month, or mostly free audits |
| Shoots per week | 20+ across markets | A few a week, mainly in Hawaii |
| Full-time staff | 10+ on payroll | Mostly contractors, paid per job |
| Where the money comes from | Recurring retainers are the core | Listing shoots are still most of it |